No one quite knows why the shooter did what he did, but both sides of the political spectrum has too turned this murder into a discussion about political violence. The Right Wing media wanting what they consider to be long overdue Civil War and purge of “Lefties”, “Commies”, “feminists”, “migrants”, etc., or, the Left Wing, which seems to be on a type of pre-emptive and defensive campaign to shed light on the possibility that the shooter wasn’t a Leftist, despite possibly being involved with the LGTBQ community, since sexuality and politics aren’t mutually exclusive (I mean look at a gay man such as Peter Thiel, Dave Rubin, etc.).
But still, no one knows why he did it but we have preemptively concluded it is about partisan politics.
Yet, the shooter has reasons we do not quite know yet, and in the mystery, we are all guilty of trying to input or spin the situation; however, there is nothing wrong with thinking this through. It is just that we have to be humble to the fact that we don’t know everything. Randomness does exist and if though randomness goes against our human need to control, the universe at times simply doesn’t care. Nihilists, anarchists, etc. do exist, and we have to factor this in, and the plausibility that this event was a random act of opportunistic violence and infamy seeking.
Even, Andrew Callahan with Channel 5 “station”, or “video-cast” – who I support and respect – has already done a segment exploring this ideas that it is about political differences between the Left and Right, but…we don’t know why the shooter did what he did. However in Andrew’s segment, titled: “The Last Person to Debate Charlie Kirk (Exclusive Interview)“, he does touch upon an important idea that younger generations seem disassociated to violence, which sounds a bit paternalistic considering people said the same about Millennials or Gen X, however, I do think and feel that Zoomers specifically are the most entrench generation of what we can consider (and, I hate to say this word) of “postmodern” irony. But, it is not even a postmodern irony which allegedly afflicted Gen X and elder Millennials at play, but more so an even more advanced, entrenched, realized, and recycled version of ideology that even surpasses the “postmodernist condition”. A post-post or “meta-modernist” type of behavior which seems to instill a sense of hope or sincerity through action (aspiring for the objective truths or grand narratives that postmodernist rejected), while still playing and flirting with postmodern tropes such as irony, being snarky, detachment, punk anarchism, and weaving a playful quilt of high-and-low pop cultural references and anachronisms.
But, what even what I just said is too intellectual likely for the shooter, and all I meant to do there was paint a picture of the sociological conditions in which he operates. He was operating in the digital landscape of gaming, chatrooms, memes, shock videos, etc., which gives a person a sense of connection without actual physical connection, and allows people to operate under anonymity, thus potentially giving a person a false sense of grandeur as opposed to the likely mundane nature of their actual non-digital existence.
This could be a matter of intra-conservative violence, rather than bipartisan violence. Similar to how the Nazis of Hitler beefed with the Strasserism. There is a big policy divide of Zoomer Conservatives (who have been influenced by online movements such as the Catholic Dues Vult movement; Groypers; 8chan; figures such as Lilly Gaddis or Nick Fuentes, etc.) who have turned on Israel and those who are Zionists.
A lot of older people, parents, etc., don’t know what is going on online, and I think there is a kneejerk reaction to blame change on progressive explicitly, i.e., like how parents in the 60s called anything different as being “dirty hippies”. Yet, many conservative parents, who see their children as “God fearing darlings” are a lot more technology adept than what their parents know. Their parents who go these large Evangelical Churches don’t understand memes, racist troll symbols, the irony, the lingo, etc. Tyler Robinson could thus be an example of conservative parents being out of touch, and when presented with the actions of their children, they fall into denial and simply blame outside forces, rather than understanding many of these online spaces are explicitly for conservatives, right wingers, fascists, etc.
I wrote this post a few days ago, but as of 9/15/24, I am adding in a video by Internet Today, which also talks about this online postmodern irony I spoke about above.
And, of course, you have liberal centrists (different from Leftist), i.e., the CNN, MSNBC crowed (not to be confused with the Jacobin crowd), doing their “can we all just get along” campaign, while they inadvertently creating more top-cover for conservatives, but establishing a false equivalence between the Left and Right, as if the Left has the history of violence in the USA as conservatism does, and the Left is generally more financially broke that the Right Wing. Since liberal (modernist liberals) and conservatives (classical liberals) are both guided by a capitalist framework of thinking, liberals simply want to “go back to business as usual”, with no real moral or humanist impetus, so they accidently become conciliatory towards conservatives, and their messaging in suite follows.
I can already see the “Charlie Kirk Foundation” or “Charlie Kirk Society” being created and used to bankroll tax write-offs for wealthy industrialists from the Great Lakes Region, or for their more ruthless, ambitious, and crypto investing grandkids. “Inspiring liberty and freedom from leftist Ideology” will be the motto. The board will be figures associated with Hillsdale College (a school implicated in trying to overturn the 2020 Election), Patrick Henry College, Liberty University, etc.
It will be just another 501(c) in the conservative ecosystem used to move money around. These controlling figures are the old money who controlled factories, farming, brewing, mining, chemical plants, etc. Families no one sees. They are not the endearing father figures such Brian Dennehy from 1995’s Tommy Boy, starring Chris Farley, who owned an auto parts factory. Rather, these seem to be the types of people who may say, “Hitler was bad, but he had some good ideas” at a party.
Such an organization would be a self-aggrandizing fawn-fest of self-awarded accolades, “Fellowships”, and other resume padding efforts to make those associated with it seem like “scholars” or “experts” worthy of Fox News airtime similar to cretins such as Christopher Rufo. It will be just another organization in the vast web of interconnected right-wing “think tanks” such as the Claremont Institute, Cato Institute, Discovery Institute, Hudson Institute, Gatestone Institute, Atlas Network, VDARE, Pacific Research Institute, Seale Freedom Trust, the Federalist Society, Manhattan Institute, etc.
Yet, such experts will be corporate stooges arguing for tax cuts on the rich and trying to convince the public that forever-chemicals don’t cause cancer.
There will likely be exchange programs for American students to visit Israel too.

Kirk, despite being a father, etc., was a loathsome person, who got paid to divide. Seriously, his portfolio is toxic. Rarely did he present positivity unless vanquishing liberals is the only happiness one gets. He did not bridge the divide but rather he widened it, hoping his ideology – one of exclusion – would win. Though not deserving of violence, his rhetoric could be considered as dehumanizing in nature, thus being violence in and of itself. Stochastic terrorism at its finest. Contrary to Trump’s claim that calling someone a Nazi led to Kirk’s death, I’d argue that Charlie’s toxicity came back around like a boomerang.

Now his wife, who seems like she would not have been with Charlie if Charlies were not famous and well-funded, is threatening an ambiguous group of people for his death. It seems she is supposed to be the mascot, a type of white, Trad Wife, Nashville Joan of Arc for the Civil War that many Christian Nationalists, white supremacists, anarchists, fascists, etc., wants but because the shooter doesn’t fit the intended demographic of their anger, she is only left with posturing towards an ambiguous “they”. Her speech almost seemed scripted, but I don’t want to shame a grieving wife, however, it seems odd she’d make such a scripted response just a few days after his death, where I would think most people would have been too traumatized to have spoken just yet.
Yet, keeping tabs on these conservative people I remember years ago Kirk beefing with Nick Fuentes and racist “America First”, “Alt Right” Groyper movement (look it up if you don’t know this term — but be forewarned that the surface level childishness is intended to conceal the abhorrent fascists that these Groypers are).
Kirk wanted to absorb and harness the Alt Right, i.e., be its establishment linked handler, but they felt Kirk was not racist enough (which is hilarious considering Kirk’s default was the “how can we blame black people?” crutch which most conservative pundits rest on).
Kirk was a Zionist whereas Fuentes is an antisemite and anti-Zionist (I consider those two different things).
Before I go on, it is important to note that both Kirk, and racist America First leader, Nick Fuentes, are both from Chicago. This seemingly random tidbit sheds light on the Midwest’s influence on Right Wing ideology. It is a city with a notoriously segregated past.
For example Nick Fuentes is essentially the modern day, online troll, version of mid 20th century racists such as Wllis Carto (of Indianapolis) and Francis Parker Yockey (of Chicago, IL).
Also, as alluded to previously, there is a group of shadowy Midwest Republican Megadonors who were behind Charlie Kirk. The Midwest has a charming place in America’s heart yet is home to the Rust Belt, was hit hard by decades long crime rates due to deindustrialization, and more recently was in the America’s mind because of the Kyle Rittenhouse shooting on Kenosha, Wisconsin and the George Floyd Protests in Minneapolis.
However, this shooter, if truly a Groyper, then he was likely a “troll, 8chan kid” who wanted chaos. 8chan is an unfiltered message board where anonymous users often share controversial material ranging from racist memes, videos about death, etc. Such youth-oriented political and 8chan types of violence is not unheard of, but the allure of 8chan for many is that if it gains attention for the infamous actions of some of its users, then outsider backlash often comes off as “lame”, “parental”, or being taken too seriously. It’s a way for detached or alienated to have a sense of “insider knowledge”.
8chan in a sense is simply a distillate of the cynicism, irony, parody, etc., of our modern times, where morality is really subjective and nihilism ironically makes people attached to a world, they feel alienated or exhausted by (and I say ironically because nihilism is supposed to be the absence of feeling). It’s a place for the blacked pill to trade in craft and fellowship. 8chan is a mirror of the perpetual Holden Caulfield (i.e., The Catcher in the Rye) malaise that seems to have robbed people of optimistic thinking.
According to a basic online search of a headline I remembered, in early 2025, in Waukesha, Wisconsin (where Wisconsin oddly appears a lot in my writing), teen Nikita Casap was charged with killing his parents as part of an extremist plot to fund a white supremacist political revolution. The FBI discovered evidence that the 17-year-old was influenced by neo-Nazism and intended to use his parents’ money to assassinate President Donald Trump.
This seems similar to the Kirk assassination to me. But conservatives can’t admit any possible white supremacist or adjacent type of motives, even if it were a fraction, because the modern conservative movement in the United States is a white supremacist movement, more so than it has ever been. Fox News sounds like something one might have heard in Apartheid South Africa, and the seeming parody of Fox News’ cruelty is really them testing what they can get away with. I heard on a Fox News segment the cast of a show talking about executing homeless people with lethal injections.
Yet, to understand Casap, we have to briefly touch upon the Occult, which is very broad and can make the person explaining it seem odd or looney.
I could go back as far as the Greco Roman world with figures such as Plotinus or Iamblichus, or to Renaissance era with Giovanni Pico Della Mirandola, or the Masonic and Illuminus Movement of the Enlightenment, or more recent modern figures such as Madam Blavatsky, but in simple terms, the Occult, notably “magic” or “magick”, seeks to will existence into reality and reach higher levels of consciousness through ritual. According to magic practitioner John Michael Greer, author of “The King in Orange: The Magical and Occult Roots of Political Power” (2021), he states on page 91, “Magic, as we’ve seen, is the art and science of causing changes in consciousness in accordance with will. If you are denied access to any other sources of power, you can still exercise power over your own consciousness.”
Greer’s thesis in his book sheds light on how a generation of “basement dwellers” who were alienated from society, for which they blame the failings of liberal market-capitalist democracies, started practicing “Chaos Magick” as a means of finding friends in fringe online spaces. Chaos Magick is the Postmodern version of older forms of Occultism where relativity, Discordianism, and subjectivity are keys in willing or manifesting one’s will into being. By postmodern I mean a philosophical worldview which rejects grand narratives and is skeptical of objective facts, and thus sees value in mixing high with low art, blurring lines of morality, distorting time and traditional narrative, and musing over living within the hyperreality which could be summarized as the constant propagation, replication, and recycling of consumer and pop culture within capitalist systems that have reached levels of domination in which every aspect of life is a commodified product. The postmodern condition thus could be defined as people living in advanced capitalist societies which have reached such a level of systemic domination over people, that there is no escape for a system based on an idea that people made up. For example, the irony of having third world poverty in the most wealthy nations, as if this were naturally occuring, rather than the byproduct of a man made system and game that we could alleviate ourselves from, but choose not to simply because we are addicted to the system we created.
Many youth mass shooters are…the afterbirth of the postmodern condition, and they know it, so they are predisposed to reactionary politics, often but not always with a traditionalist or Orthodox bent. This is why so many young people or Zoomers seem to be more open to anti-democratic versions of political organization. It seems in part a mix of their rage against their real-world materialist conditions as isolated youths in a world that seems to be getting worse day-by-day, yet it also seems part of wanting to create a fantasy world where individuals have agency again, no different than characters people play in complex world-building “dreamscapes” in video games.
Chaos Magic, Postmodern Magick, what have you, is simply making up whatever you want with the intention that you are performing a magic working to change behaviors and will existence. If we were to apply a sterile military application or lingo to what I just said, the Chaos Magic and Postmodern Magick are simply… psychological warfare without any qualms of bending morality. In grunt military terms it is essentially… f-cking with people. This thus makes it alluring to snarky and edgy teens and young adults.
By the way, I recommend Greer’s book, notably pages 86 through 107 as a better summary as what I stated above
Greer was saying that alienated young people are playing with “magic” as a means of wanting political change, however I am adding on that certain groups want actual results and use violence as a means of ritual to stir chaos, hopefully to bring on collapse or totalitarianism (i.e. Ceasar, Trump).
For example, Casap was a member or associate of Order of Nine Angles, an online mostly Satanic Neo Nazi cult of lone wolf operators, who do violence including murder, sexual assaults, pedophilia, etc., because they see it as a kind of Alistair Crowley, Hermetic, Occultic path towards Enlightenment and reaching higher “Aeons”, i.e., stages of development, where their goal is a “galactic Aryan civilization”.
Members believe in “manifesting”, so by doing evil acts they feel it opens up new pathways of personal success. It sounds very odd. Your grandmother would have zero clue on how to process this, but the Republican Party’s inability to vet the extreme fringes of Right-Wing ideology has given groups like O9A an almost playful albeit dangerous safe space to operate. Rather than calling out extreme white supremacy, which can only vote modern Republican in a two-party system, the GOP simply blames The Left, to the delight of Neo Nazi anarchist organizations.
Like Casap is Wisconsin, in another case a US Army member was given a 45 year prison sentence for trying to a terror attack on his unit as part of an O9A ritual. According to ABC New, Aaron Katersky (2023), stated, “Ethan Melzer, the former Army private described as “the enemy within” because he plotted with a Satanic neo-Nazi group known as O9A to kill fellow soldiers, was sentenced Friday to 45 years in prison. Melzer, 24, pleaded guilty last June to three counts: aiding and abetting the attempt to murder U.S. service members, providing material support and resources to terrorists, and illegally transmitting national defense information. The charges accused him of attempting to plan a jihadist attack on his Army unit in the days leading up to a deployment to Turkey, by sending sensitive details to other members of the U.K.-based Order of the Nine Angles, known as O9A. The attack never came to fruition.” (https://abcnews.go.com/US/us-soldier-ethan-melzer-enemy-sentenced-jihadist-plot/story?id=97616439).
So, we have two cases of O9A members, so it could be possible that Tyler Robinson was influenced by such a group. But this is only a lead I am suggesting.
It goes further, according to a piece by the BBC with Daniel De Simone revealed the larger scale of O9A activity. In the segment, Daniel Hussein was a member of O9A who promised to sacrificed women for power and money, and he was just one of at least 7 men arrested for other O9A inspired violence. Hussein killed two women in a satantic ritual.
But when Tyler Robinson of Utah was arrested it made me think of some research, I did a while ago in which this BBC segment talked about a man, Matthew Lawrence from Utah, who was the cult leader who helped inspire Daniel Hussein. Lawrence convinced Hussein to believe in Lucifuge Rofocale, a supposed demonic entity that Matthew Lawrence told his followers to make a blood pact with.
The BBC segment featured analysis from Professor Matthew Feldman of the Centre for Analysis of The Radical Right who spoke about Left Hand Satanism which he explained as a Darwinist, violent form of Satanism.
So, if my theory is correct, Tyler Robinson could have been a “chronically online person” who was exposed to groups such as O9A, notably because Robinson is from Utah similar to O9A affiliated cult leader Matthew Lawrence. Robinson could have done the shooting to “will existence” such as start general chaos, anarchy, etc. Lawrence was affiliated with the Temple of Blood, which is related to the O9A, and O9A has influenced Nazi groups such as the Attomwaffen Division.
Attomwaffen Division in the US was led by Brandon Russell, and he was arrested for trying to blow up a Baltimore power grid. (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64493319). Russell had also been involved in a double homicide, in which is roommate killed their other roommates, but authorities have handled the situation found explosives linked to Russell who wanted to use them blow up a nuclear facility. (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/florida-keys/article151953257.html)

Adding to this Occult angle, is that people are trying to pin Tyler’s act on links to transgenderism or Furries. However, sexual orientation or assignment doesn’t automatically indicate political leanings, e.g., you can have gay Nazis, where in the case of male homosexuality may find arousal in the Right Wing’s emphasis on hypermasculinity, domination, etc. The Christian Nationalist movement would love to pin this on the LGBTQ community, black community, immigrants, Jews, etc., as the impetus for their Holy Civil War. Many see Transgenderism as Satanic and there is a basic thesis, I call it the “Jay Dyer Thesis” which has gain prominence in Right Wing conspiracy theory circles, states that transgenderism is effectively alchemy, in which humans are playing God by distorting the natural order of things. This thesis pushes that the modern world, with ideas such as Darwin’s theory of evolution, Transgenderism, etc., are effectively modern occult practices linked to demonic entities.


Tyler’s roommate may have been a Furry or on the LGBTQ spectrum. However, there is a good video that explains a real case of a Nazi Furry conducting a mass shooting. Conservatives haven’t come to grips that people with conservative or even fascist leanings can be gay, trans, irreligious, etc. But I want to be careful as to not paint these groups as synonymous with each other or as being bad. Of course, being LGBTQ is not bad.



The Cost-Benefit of Kirk gone from the perspective of the shooter is as follows:
(A) Make a statement by taking out a prominent Zionist whom you see as an agent of the “Zionist Occupied Government” where “Z.O.G” is a term often associated with White Supremacist politics notably in the 1980s, due to the book “Turner Diaries”, but hate aside, the non-racist truth is that the Israeli lobby has deeply rooted influence in American politics in which more Americans are aware of. And, the brazen actions of Israel and the apparent desperation of Zionists to sway public opinion in their favor, is making more people suspicious of Zionist Jews, which increases retaliatory threats against Jews in general
(B) Hope that the vengeance of Trump will cause “accelerationism” (a term popular in “Black Pilled” – i.e., nihilistic, communities). They, such as extremist groups such as the Boogaloo Boys, Proud Boys, and more overtly Neo Nazi groups such as Attomwaffen and Order of Nine Angles (O9A), want societal collapse. Anarchist violence helps figures such as Trump (whether he is aware of it or not) towards pushing more authoritarian ideas. Both A & B are goals of people such as Nick “I’m Half Mexican” Fuentes.
Fuentes is exploiting the fact that US politics avoids calling out Israeli actions, thus Fuentes deceptively appears more authentic, “real”, forthcoming, etc. This “authenticity” seems genuine to younger people online. This new era of Israeli negative sentiment is exciting to many in that the establishment appears like a parent hiding the truths of how things work. And, they were hiding the truth.
The rise of political violence, relating to issues such as Zionism is “blowback”. It is the inevitable “Chickens coming home too roost”, as more people realize they’ve be living in one world, slaving, dying, and spending for it, whereas there’s larger agendas at foot.
A lot of people blame Israel for the Middle East situation, which has caused the USA to lose it’s de facto position as arbiter of democracy, but has also made millions of refugees, where many fleed to Europe and the West, during times of economic uncertainty such as durinh the Global Recession of 2008 to roughly 2014.
This could have all been avoided if the legacy media treated Israeli coverage fairly – both the goods and bads, but media in the US is corporate driven and many corporate leaders have Zionist sentiments.
For example, Zionist Jew, Larry Ellison, founder of Oracle, has a son, David Ellison, who is the new Chairman and CEO of Paramount Global following the Skydance Media merger that was completed on August 7, 2025. As the leader of the combined Paramount Skydance, David Ellison will oversee a vast entertainment empire that includes CBS, MTV, and Paramount Pictures.
Ellison has already given journalistic reigns to Barri Weiss, an ardent Zionist, to help flip negative coverage of Israel’s genocide in Gaza.
But, there is a theory that Charlie Kirk was taken out because HE WAS judging Israel, and I HIGHLY skeptical this.
But to expand further, Charlie being dead makes him more valuable to the Right Wing Movement who will exploit his death.
This situation eminds me of John Birch of the John Birch Society if you know that history. John Birch was a Christian missionary during World War II, and given a commission during the days of US and Chinese “Flying Tiger” operations against Japan. His fluency in Chinese made him useful to American operations assisting China against Japan, but after the war, China erupted in Civil War between Chiang Kai-Shek’s Nationalists and Mao’s Communists. Birch was allegedly killed by Communist at a checkpoint for misunderstanding instructions.
The JBS was founded by rich industrialists, mostly in the Midwest, such as Harry Lynde Bradley (co-founder of Allen Bradley which is now Rockwell Automation) of Wisconsin. Fred Koch, who helped Nazi Germany refine oil, and whose sons Charles and David, became Republican Megadonors, and founded the CATO Institute, a libertarian think tank. Another man Revilo P. Oliver, a professor at University of Illinois, helped found the JBS too but left because he felt it too nice to Jews. He left to join the National Alliance, a hate group founded by William Luther Pierce, an ex Oregon State University professor, who wrote the racist Bible called “The Turner Diaries”, which as a book inspired Tim McVigh to do the Oklahoma City Bombing.
This split of Oliver from the JBS is similar to the Kirk versus Fuentes beef.
The Bradley Foundation gives money to the ultasecret Donor’s Trust who funds Libertarian and conservative causes, including… Turning Point USA of Charlie Kirk. The Bradley’s are inter-married to the Uihlein of Wisconsin. The Uihlein’s owned Uline Logistics, Schlitz Brewing, and General Binding Corporation.
To distill all of my information further, in simple terms, Charlie’s insurance policy expired and his value to the MAGA, the Heritage Foundation, Project 2025, etc., yields more benefits with him gone.
It sounds heartless but if this were something more coordinated from MAGA proper, i.e., a grand conspiracy, which seems unlikely, then it is a basic cost-benefit analysis.
(A) Trump can blame the Left with no proof (B) MAGA can drum up its call to purge people on the margins. Trump already pardoned January 6th Rioters, so what else will he pardon? (C) a new generation of people will be loyal to Kirk in memory as they will zee the Left as to blame.
(D) It distracts from all other Trump stuff like his round ups of migrants, his contract awards to Peter Thirl’s Palantir to create a mass surveillance “dragnet” program, but also troops in cities, keeping the media off Israel/Gaza, and no Epstein talk such as the fallout of the botched Ghislaine Maxwell interview, (F) boost before November elections especially with centrists where Republicans are already Gerrymandering in Texas. (G) Justify taking out Leftist in a tic-for-tat scenario
Kirk’s death increases the odds of violence on Left Wing figures, etc., such Mamdami, Hasan Pikeer, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, etc.
Overall, Kirk’s use ran out, especially with Zionists and Republicans furious with the rise of figures like Mamdani in NYC, indicating Kirk has failed a bit to sway public opinion. However, Kirk being killed by an Anti-zionist can help the Zionist lobby clamp down further on anti Israel movements.
So that side had gripes on his failing assignment. Yet, Groyper may have killed him because Kirk was Pro-Israel and his death would cause “the theory of accelerationism”.
It is a basic cost benefit analysis.
Kirk is better off to the Zionist – Right Wing – Trump movement, not being alive than alive, even if they weren’t involvement in a grand conspiracy.
Other Sources and Exhibits Below:
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/turning-point-usa-donations-surged-pandemic-rcna37143