I would highly recommend going to YouTube, going to Jay Dyer’s page, go to videos and then filter for older videos and then start your journey from there.
Jay Dyer when it comes to explaining geopolitics, political dialectics, etc., has had a big influence on me, however, I am not a social conservative, Orthodox, etc., and I believe Dyer’s worldview has already been co-opted and incorporated into the “system” and will be used to by those in power, even though a person such as Dyer would blame the political left. For example, I don’t think being LGBTQ is social engineering but is something a part of the human species. It was simply suppressed, and for example cultures with more than two genders have existed, granted they were outside of the context of Abrahamic religions. And at the end of the day, all Dyer can do is debate. I am not saying that his belief in God is bad. I believe in God; however, it’s really Dyer’s words versus his opposition, and luckily, we live in a country of pluralism, i.e., the ability to agree to disagree.
One reason why I strategically like Dyer is that he helped undermine Jordan Peterson, libertarians, etc., even though he does go after the Left, but in this case, the enemy of enemy of my friend.
A lot of people have talked about Curtis Yarvin having influenced J.D. Vance, but there is little commentary on Jay Dyer who I consider to be one of the largest online sources for the how the Trumpian brain works, with its emphasis on ultra nationalism, pandering to Christian Nationalism & Dominion Ideology (such as a belief in revoking the separation of church and state), and a belief anchored around a conspiratorial worldview where everything that is not conservative (and isn’t Caucasian male heteronormative) is an automatically conspiracy. For example, conspiracies of Qanon, the Federal Reserve and Jekyll Island history, the Rothchild’s owning the world, etc., are more so firmly Right-Wing oriented conspiracy theories. Even if there is truth to them, they are often twist towards preferencing Right Wing positions.
However, I do not think that Jay Dyer is a bad person. He is very intelligent and had an influence on my worldview and how I analyze politics. I however stopped following and listening to Jay Dyer years ago, largely because it became more apparent that he is firmly within the Right-Wing ecosystem despite having criticisms of it. To Dyer, the system is not conservative enough and Dyer seems to reject pluralism. I consider myself to be progressive in my politics and even though I may not agree with conservatives, I still do believe that pluralism and democracy are worthwhile efforts in defending, whereas Dyer is symbolic of anti-modern and anti-democratic neo-reactionary movement.
To get my main criticism of Dyer out the way up front, my criticism is that Dyer thinks he’s being against the establishment when his ideas are very conducive to the establishment. If anything his ideas are the original establishment with that being theocracy.
Even though he understands things such as dialectics, etc., Dyer seems incapable of admitting that his ideas have largely been influential, let alone plagiarized, by those in “the machine”. The machine is system, i.e., the amalgamation of various complexes that all feeds into power of the current elite class (i.e., that of the capitalist, multi-national corporatists, etc.) and there’s no real fighting this behemoth of a system, so even though Dyer’s works seem to be against the system, the system will find a way to co-opt it and use it to its advantage.
Thus, Dyer’s beliefs, which I will go into detail below, can be seen in the contemporary Republican Party’s shift towards anti-democratic and pro-authoritarian politics. Dyer is either (A) so naive of this that he loses a bit of respect, since he seems to know everything, or, (B) he is a part of the system itself but pretending to not be, or (C) he is being strategic though faithful to his beliefs, i.e., he knows the system is flawed but he figures influencing certain spaces and being incremental in his approach is the best way to eventually convert “the machine”.
My argument against Dyer isn’t that I disagree with his worldview, which is that of a God First “Essence precedes Existence” worldview, because it’s hard to argue that God exists or not, so him being right is always a possibility, though one could say that the opposite to his views can be true too, but rather my concern is that Dyer seems to be naive to the fact that this worldview was the original way of controlling and oppressing people.
Even though Dyer can argue that he is approaching everything from a theistic belief in God framework, once can also say that his religious beliefs are simply covering up his personal fears, biases, prejudices, need for controls, etc. In other words, Dyer like many white male conservatives can say they believe in God first, when really, they believe in God to give credence and justification to their identity, and notably the social privileges afforded to that identity. For example, a rise in religiosity amongst young white males, could be argued as not being very religious at all, but more so people wanting a meta-physical justification for their identity, which they feel in the physical world has been the analyzed, deconstructed, critiqued, etc.
It is impossible to know whether Dyer’s personal needs and wants precedes his religiosity or if his religiosity precedes his personal wants and needs. To not sound too much like a “Social Justice Warrior” (as if that is a real insult to be one), whiteness, patriarchy, and heteronormativity seems to gravitate towards conservatism, and conservative philosophy as a means of “intellectualizing” and shrouding their wants and needs to maintain power, authority, etc. This why a lot of online racism for instance can often be linked to profiles with “Christian crosses” in their bios. Christianity in the United States has largely been coopted by white supremacy, and the irony is that more white supremacy takes over Christianity, the less people outside of this group trusts Christianity. Thus, these white conservatives may be doing more to kill Christianity than what they are aware of.
But who is Dyer?
Jay Dyer is an online personality who peaked in my opinion in the mid-to-late twenty teens but still has a pretty active online following. He appeals to younger people with his goofy humor, Cold Wave and synth music production, and often 1980s inspired nostalgic thumbnails, fonts, etc., touching upon Miami Vice, etc.
To me Dyer is one of the original “Trad Bros”, i.e., Traditionalis who are Gen X, Millennial, and Zoomer men who reject modernity and embrace Third Position politics which is hostile towards both capitalism and socialism and are in favor of medieval political and economic systems. This group is highly religious, patriarchal, and often favors ethnic nationalism, and engaging in online 4-chan or 8-chan “edgelord” humor which is often racist, sexists, antisemitic, etc.
Jay Dyer is important because he foreshadowed the most powerful Trad Bro, we currently have which is Vice President J.D. Vance.
He was born Protestant to a father who was in the United States Navy. He grew up in Tennessee and is likely living somewhere near the “the Redneck Portland” of Nashville, TN.
Supposedly Dyer went to some sort of special school for gifted children as a young kid if I remember right from his many lengthily videos. He later converted to Roman Catholicism, but then converted to Eastern Orthodoxy, seemingly because the Catholic Church was becoming too progressive and Dyer disagreed with Catholicism’s stance on “filioque”, i.e., the order of operations within the Holy Trinity. He may have also been a political intern for Rand Paul. He is married to a woman named Jamie Hanshaw who often contributes to Jay’s videos.
Separately, Dyer has given some credit to the ideas of white nationalists such as Jared Taylor of American Renaissance, has stated that a wife should submit to her husband, etc., in certain debates which I don’t have the links for right now. He is pro-death penalty, anti-globalism, pro-ethnic nationalism, pro-theocracy, etc.
When it comes to Curtis Yarvin, who is similar ot Dyer, Yarvin created his concept of the “Cathedral”, and this alongside the ideas and lectures of Jay Dyer can be symbolic of the beliefs of J.D. Vance, and the new crop of young Millennial and Zoomer neo-reactionaries who span every right-wing space from Trad Wives, raw milk drinkers, homesteaders, No Fap movement (no masturbation), Repealing Woman’s Right to vote (and convincing women to be supportive of “Biblical femininity”), White Identity politics (including Hitler apologia by some), pro-segregation ideas, and a rejection of multiculturalism and globalism, etc. The talking points of figures such as Lilly Leigh Coleman Gaddis and Nick Fuentes and his Groypers of the American First Movement could be traced back Dyer, even if a person such as Gaddis adopted her ideas indirectly. Movements such as Patriot Front could be symbolic of the political reality of these ideas coming true.
To understand “The Cathedral” simply, David Phillips (2025), states, “The Cathedral, as Yarvin describes it, encompasses elite universities, mainstream media organizations, the permanent bureaucracy, non-profit organizations, and progressive activist networks. These institutions, he argues, work together not through explicit coordination but through shared assumptions and mutually reinforcing incentives. A professor publishes research suggesting a particular policy approach; journalists cite this research in articles advocating for change; activists organize around these articles; bureaucrats implement policies based on this pressure; and academics study and validate the results, beginning the cycle anew” [Source: Phillips, David (2025). Curtis Yarvin’s Radical Critique of Democracy. https://wdavidphillips.com/curtis-yarvins-radical-critique-of-democracy/]
Behind both Yarvin and Dyer, there is a disdain for modern democracy and a yearning to return to times of kings, etc.
I have been observing Jay Dyer for years. I used to watch his very long lecture-like videos where he goes into details about the historical roots of modernity, geopolitical intrigues, and what he considers to be the actual New World Order.
He studied Plato’s The Republic, Carrol Quigley’s Tragedy and Hope and The Anglo-American Establishment, Turning Point by Frtijof Capra, Storming Heaven: LSD and the American Dream (1987) by Jay Stevens (which Dyer believes LSD is a control drug used to converse with demons who commission people such as Beat Poets such as Allen Ginsberg, to destroy traditional society such as promoting abortion, etc.), etc.
He is also a popular figure in the “Hollyweird Movement”, where he believes that Hollywood is spreading subliminal message and engaging in “predictive programming” to steer the general population in ways that benefits the elites, who I will go into more down below. He is the author of Hollywood Babylon where he goes into details about film, such as of course, Eye’s Wide Shut by Stanley Kubrick, as proof of what the elite class is actually up to.
Yet, Dyer has also lectured more fringe books such as
And, I learned a lot, however, Dyer and I have very different worldviews and conclusions. Whereas he is essentially a conservative, I see myself as a progressive, so though I agree with a lot of his analysis centering around Western philosophy, both mainstream and esoteric, I however don’t reject modernity, democracy, women’s equality, diversity, inclusion, etc. Dyer does however, so he is firmly within the online Right Wing, and he does have links to Alex Jones, Lauren Southern, Nick Fuentes, etc. He has even gained some celebrity endorsement with people such as Jamie Kennedy. Dyer though his relations with Alex Jones and controversial troll-like comedians such as Sam Hyde, Dyer is effectively just a few degrees separated from the Rogan-verse, which one could argue is main cross-roads between the vast array of culturally conservative spaces, which are often online, e.g., comedy touches upon the conspiracy movement, etc.
The best way to get a quick view of Dyer’s beliefs is to watch the video where he critiques Jordan Peterson down below.
Dyer’s main thesis is that modernity which includes liberalism such as capitalism, libertarianism, socialism, communism, scientism (in the vein of Bertrand Russell), Darwin’s Theory of Evolution, feminism, multiculturalism, etc., are essentially occultic and Neoplatonic, where Neoplatonism is a gnostic (hidden knowledge) type of belief system from late antiquity where ritualistic and magical practices are used to reach higher levels of consciousness since the body is seen as a lower level of perfection, created by a lesser God known as the Demiurge (which Neoplatonists believes to be our Biblical God), who is in the way of true enlightenment found closer to the true God, called the Monad. This thus makes modernity based on what he considers to be Satanic beliefs systems (Luciferian, individualistic, blasphemous, etc.), which has resulted in the modern world (removed from God’s law), where science is something akin to alchemy, i.e., instead of doing black magic, science is just a continuation of Neoplatonic alchemy. Essentially modernity removed metaphysics and spirituality and put all emphasis on materialism, but materialism has a propensity for being subject to flux, change, evolution, etc. He believes that both sides of the political spectrum are used by elites in a type of “dialectical warfare”, where binary opposites are encouraged (e.g., Far Left Communism and Capitalism & Libertarianism/Far Right Fascism), but these binaries are clashed with each other, so the reaction from the clash creates a new paradigm, where the weak are weeded out.
Since these ideas are based on materialism, i.e., without an objective truth based in God, Dyer would argue that materialist philosophies without any truth are spinning in flux, and flux leads not only to a grotesque merging of things (such as his view on Transhumanism, Transgenderism, etc.) but also recurring or cyclical violence, i.e., this clash of dialectical ideas are repeated in perpetuity.
Thus, those who control the system, are akin to something called a “death cult”, because they see themselves as the entitled elites, who see themselves as a “god”, and who task themselves with forcibly evolving the species but evolving the human race in a way that permits the elites to control the population. Many of these elites are modern renditions of the philosopher kings from Plato’s the Republic, where a Republican is a society ruled a few and not the many (a democracy). Even once these elites pit dialectics against each other, they will then begin the process of tension again. This group has a Malthusian world view where they are obsessed with control population which they do through abortion, feminism (which he would argue as being witchcraft, where feminism often has symbology of Gaia, thus links to the Green Movement), the LGBTQ movement, etc. This concept of cyclical violence can be concepts can be seen in Nietzsche’s “eternal recurrence” and his emphasis on the Übermensch or even within Indian Vedas thought with the idea of Kali Yuga (which was highly influential on European Occultism, which in turn influenced fascists movements), etc.
Dyer believes the goal of the elites is to make a world inspired by Aldous Huxley’s A Brave New World where people will be dumbed down, mutated, and forced into caste systems, where they live in “smart cities”. They do this by funding research at the Esalen Institute (which was prominent in the psychedelic drug scene, Human Potential Movement, and Hippie movements), the Tavistock Institute, the Anglo-American Cliveden set, the Council of Foreign Relations, The Bank of International Settlements, the United Nations, Davos, Bilderberg, the World Economic Forum, etc.
Not only does Dyer reject modernity, but he also rejects Islam, nominalism (which is traces as one of the main culprits in creative modernist and relativist thoughts), Roman Catholicism (notably Thomism, i.e., the beliefs of Saint Thomas Aquinas), Protestants, atheists, etc.
Dyer however does not really speak about Judaism, and Dyer does seem to have a Zionist predilection, which could be argued as showing him as being in proxy with the Zionist Occupation of the American politics (e.g., using allegations of antisemitism to suppress criticism against Israel’s treatment of Gazans, etc.), especially considering Dyer’s links to Alex Jones, who is essentially the “conspiracy theory” gate-keeper and handler for the American Republican establishment that is now typified by the Make America Great Again Movement.
Alex Jones is a disciple of American conservatism’s weaponization of conspiracy theory culture which can be traced historically to paleoconservatives such as Pat Buchanan (who argued that liberals and progressives were Cultural Marxists), Eustace Clarence Mullins (an antisemite and Ezra Pound follower, known for popularizing conspiracies relating to the Federal Reserve system), and the John Birch Society, which was an organization so extreme they thought that Republican President Eisenhower was a secret Communist for supporting school integration.
Dyer who claims to be against the system, is really in close proximity to what I consider to be the “Right Wing Deep State”, which is the Judeao-Chrisitan wing of the military and intelligence community, working at the behest of Republican lawmakers and Right-Wing wealthy donors.
But this group has influence and to some degree control of spaces within the Right-wing cultural sphere notably that of conspiracy theory culture. Conspiracy theory culture is often more of a Right-Wing endeavor in the United States and West, where I would argue many American conspiracies all feedback to elitist conservative power by advocating for libertarian ideals, which always disproportionately benefits the wealthy, corporations, etc., largely by engendering a hatred towards government which allows for its privatization.
This “Right Wing Deep State” in my opinion is comprised of military figures such as Paul Valley, Michael Flynn, possibly Michael Flynn’s Brother with Charles Flynn, John K. Singlaub, Tulsi Gabbard (as a disciple to Michael Flynn), Jack Posobiec, etc., but also notable former high-ranking military officials such as John. B. Alexander (who advocated for UFOs) and Albert Stubblebine who was the famed military leader behind the real Project Stargate Experiments that inspired books and films such as the Men Who Stared at Goats by Jon Ronson. Stubblebine became a known right-wing conspiracy theorist after he left the military, such as becoming a 9/11 denialists, where won could argue that 9/11 denialism is more of anti-Zionist conspiracy because the belief is that Israel had details about the attack before it happened and didn’t share information with the USA, or the US intelligence community leading up to Bush didn’t care to act on it.
Where I disagree with Dyer is that his “shadowy cabal” aren’t some “fruity, Left Wing, Social Justice Warriors” as we would argue, but rather…. his camp, even if he thinks he is in opposition to what is going on.
Dyer presents these “globalist elites” as having everything on lock down, however, why do they not also control what he believes? Modernity, democracy, etc., for example is a small part of human history, and I would argue that religious-based traditionalism is the oldest form of human control.
Dyer thus to me seems like he’s a part of the very cabal he claims to be against, but he’s so committed to his beliefs that he can’t understand or admit that. It’s the equivalent to “Say it ain’t so, Joe” mentality, i.e., knowing our heroes (or beliefs) may be flawed but having extreme doubt about it to the point of looking past any flaws.
I say all this because Dyer’s beliefs as best seen in J.D. Vance, and J.D. Vance is as system as you can be despite Vance co-opting reactionary populist sentiments and talking points to make present himself in the same “anti-globalist” vein as Dyer, Elon Musk (who spoke to the Nazi-like part in Germany, the Alternative for Germany, etc.).
Essentially, this “Trad Movement” is just another element of control of those in power, and I would argue that Trad Movements are the strongest and most time tested forms of control, so Dyer advocating for it, isn’t really freeing anyone from anything, but rather enslaving them even more so, but within a paradigm that his hostile towards a united human species beyond color, ethnicity, religions, etc., and a paradigm which is actively hostile towards marginalized groups.
And I say that because Dyer is reflected in the talking points of J.D. Vance, who is both a Trad Bro and also a Tech Bro, but these Tech Bros are allegedly what Dyer is against. If anything, with how much of a constructed politician Vance is, i.e., being fully funded by Peter Theil, one could argue that the Tech Bro elites are coopting Traditionalist through as a means of constructing a future they control.
He often promotes an Anti-Western talking point, which could be argued as having been pulled straight from Russian Kremlin psychological warfare manuals, however, Dyer gets very angry if he is mentioned as being some sort of Russian asset. I won’t go too much into that for fear of losing the “Muh, Russia-gate” crowd (i.e., those skeptical of any sort of Russian influence in American politics).
However, Dyer did have contact with Nina Kouprinova, the ex-wife of White Supremacist Richard Spencer (who divorced Spencer on domestic violence grounds), where Nina as a woman with Georgian Soviet roots, has some sort of links to anti-Western thinker Aleksandr Dugin. Dugin is the ideologue behind Vladmir Putin’s neo-Imperialist agenda (with Putin invoking ancient treaties as his basis for conquering lands such as Ukraine). Richard Spencer has some links to Steven Miller of the Trump Administration (despite Miller being Jewish, though he is essentially a Fascist), etc. Essentaiily Dyer is jsut a few degrees of seperation away from the MAGA movement, which I call as being “Antisemitic Zioinists”, which sounds contradictory, but the Antisemitism stems from conservatisms obsession with supersitious and conspiratorial thought, which often leads back to Jews as the culprits, as well as Christian Evangelicals devotion to Isarel for their own claculate reaosns, with that being their belief that Jesus can only return once Israel is made whole again. MAGA is of course Zionists because of its stance on Israel being 100% committed to the “Jewish Reconquista” of the Levant region. Even though Jew’s don’t believe in Christianity or Jesus, and because Christians needs Jews to convert and for Isreal to be whole again for their own prophetic reasons, these two seemingly opposite camps are pragmatically working with each other.
More sinister is that the antisemitism that persist within Western Christian thought (all the way from European antisemitism of old such as the pogroms of Europe such as the Rhineland Massacre, all the way to the more recent Holocaust) is that both parties agree that helping to increase antisemitism notably through conspiracies helps both of their causes. It helps the Jewish Zionists by helping them seem like victims so that any criticism of Israel’s use of force on Palestinians is instantly suppressed with severe economic consequences such as firings, deportations, and even likely targeted misinformation campaigns (such as the Make Ireland Great Again movement funded by the same Cambridge Analytica cabal who are trying to destabilize Ireland for their support of Palestine). etc., but also increased fear in “government” “globalism”, etc., which are unliterally blamed on Jews helps conservatives maintain legislative, judicial, and executive power by claiming Democrats are representatives of the “New World Order”.
The irony is that the New World Order is capitalist, corporate, and thus more in proximity to conservatism, libertarianism, etc., since the NWO is actually the full integration of all nations on Earth into the capitalist framework.
For example, the boogeyman of the West is China, despite the irony that the West used Chinese labor to enrich themselves, and many of these wealthy people are Republican mega-donors. If the USA goes to war with China over a situation such as Tiawan, the USA is hoping that a defeating China will open up on the lucrative Chinese market to unfettered and Western controlled capitalism. This would be the NWO. A world of unfettered multinational capitalism, possibly linked with digital currency, but elites will swing between both globalism and hyper ethno-nationalism as they see fit, because both have elements of control that are beneficial to the elites. If anything, the neo-reactionary calling for ethno-nationalism is something akin to treating cultures like zoo exhibits. By foster hatred over our differences, this actually can lead back to Dyer’s thesis about how these elites are the “death cult” he claims they are. World War I and World War II were more so caused by reactionary nationalism (hauntingly more present than ever) which arose from the decline of globalism’s first modern rendition which was imperialism, where imperialism, notably of the British (who made up arbitrary borders to divide-and-conquer), helped spur nationalism, thus ethnic conflicts.
Sure, Dyer would likely agree with a lot of what I just said there, but again, Dyer’s religious world view has convinced him that somehow even his own beliefs can’t be weaponized and used by those in power, and I would argue that his beliefs are more conducive to traditional power systems, which is what figures such as Tech Bro elites such as Peter Theil, and thus his minion J.D. Vance wants.
Even with Dyer as an Orthodox follower, it is very apparent that even Orthodoxy can be infiltrated by Russian intelligence, etc., to do the exact same thing that Dyer talks about concerning the CIA in cahoots with the Vatican, notably during the Cold War.
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